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  • "We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, and cage of every unclean and hateful bird." Letter 51, 9/6/1886

"That these men should stand in a sacred place, to be as the voice of God to the people, as we once believed the General Conference to be--that is past". --Last Day Events 50.4 

“As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” -Manuscript 57, October  12, 1895 & Manuscript Releases, vol 17, p 178

"The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of Christ is not in her midst." -Notebook Leaflets, p 99
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Signs that we are been betrayed
1. The organisation no longer believes in that anti- Christ is the papacy.
 "...if he was taught that the Pope is the anti-christ, I think that would be a misunderstanding. I don't feel that's what we as a church believe.... ...[the anti-christ], that's not a person. That's not an individual..."(Kenneth Cox, representing the SDA church on WTGL TV interview, February 8, 1993.)

2.They no longer believe that the mark of the beast is Sunday:
"...the Sabbath...[is] God's sign of obedience....But we must beware! Anyone whose focus is on the Sabbath...who looks at his Sabbathkeeping as the ground of his a candidate for the mark of the beast." Adventist Review, September 7, 1989, p 26.
3.They believe that we should worship on Sunday on not pay the Sabbath much consideration although God gave us the Sabbath as a sign between His people and himself.
"All busy people yearn for a day of rest. God Himself gave His permission, a command even, for a day to allow the soul and spirit to be refreshed. This is God’s gift to us. He will take care of us physically and spiritually if we follow His plan. Our systems need the replenishment. Sunday is a special day for this worship and refreshment.... "Thoreau said, if you want to destroy the Christian faith, first take away Sunday. He was right; it’s a holy day, for those who know Jesus Christ as Saviour it cannot be a holiday. For those of you who have gathered around the cross and have been saved and washed clean by His blood, it is a sacrilege to do anything else on that day except to celebrate what God has done. "If we abuse Sunday, we’re going to destroy something beautiful that God has given. No Sunday means no church; no church means no worship; no worship means no religion; no religion means no morality; no morality means no society; no society means no government; no government means anarchy. That s the choice before us." Confessions of a Nomad: What We Learned in Sinai’s Shadow, page 86 and 120, by Carolyn and William Self, copyrighted by the SDA Ministerial Association and published by the Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1998.

3. the name Seventh Day Adventist is a name for persons who hold true to the beliefs of the SDA it is not an organisation and yet the General Conference is carrying members to court suing them for using the name. Some of the persons are: John Maric in 1984-1987. Raphel Perez. No wonder they have trademarked the name running it like a buisness as they said.

"We've got to PROTECT that name ["Seventh-day Adventist"], because we are giving a false impression to the world...And this church/state business; be a little careful how you use that, because that is not in scripture:  separation of Church and State.  That is a particular North American philosophy. It exists no where else in the world." Neal C. Wilson [Former Seventh Day Adventist General Conference President regarding the trademark], P.U.C. Sanctuary, June 18, 1988


4. Adventist vatican

We now have a Seventh day Vatican liking SDA to the mother church.


5. They no longer consider the work of Sister White has relevant to today.


There are so much more email: for queries, complaints or comments.

Its time to separate and join the remnant which is a small group. The Bible said many will be deceived and only a few saved.

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Adventists is the fastest growing Protestant church in North America, according to a report printed in a prominent protestant paper.  By their fruits you shall know them.  Shall we let the trend of SDA church growth be the indicator whether the Lord considers the SDA church apostate, or doing the work of warning the world of a soon coming Saviour.  God bless.
Well remember the Bible said many shall be deceived? So if you find yourself on the side with a whole lot then maybe you should reconsider that side. As for preaching the 3 angel's message we can't do that because the conference is apologizing and "fornicating' with rome.But we still have to push forward with the mission of God if we want to be victorious.


"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."--Matthew 7:15-20.


Growth in numbers (fruit) is most definitely a legitimate indicator of the effectiveness of one's ministry and whether or not the Holy Spirit is with them---it is however, not the only indicator of fruit .  The assumption that increased numbers is reflective of compromise in ministry is not scriptural--and goes against what happened on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2. 


Research states that it takes approximately 5 years to transition from one faith to another completely.   Mark 4 states that the seed will fall on all types of ground (people).  How they are nurtured will determine how they grow and whether they are successful. The fruit then would not only rest on the evangelist/pastor, but also on the local congregation and their spiritual nurturing of those who come in.  



When I first read the website I was thinking really? and was wondering if what he was saying had any value to it. Until I checked out what was really happening inside our beloved institution and realized that he had more that valid points because there was truth in some of it and he was backed by the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy.

lets see what Sister White had to say:

They that forsake the law praise the wicked." Proverbs 28:4. When those who are uniting with the world, yet claiming great purity, plead for union with those who have ever been the opposers of the cause of truth, we should fear and shun them as decidedly as did Nehemiah. Such counsel is prompted by the enemy of all good. It is the speech of timeservers, and should be resisted as resolutely today as then. Whatever influence would tend to unsettle the faith of God's people in His guiding power, should be steadfastly withstood.  -Prophets and kings 660.1

And the church is today saying we need to join with  rome there are good people within the organisation but their teaching is against God.


“I saw that God has honest children among the nominal Adventists and the fallen churches, and before the plagues shall be poured out, ministers and people will be called out from these churches and will gladly receive the truth. Satan knows this and before the loud cry of the third angel is given, he raises an excitement in these religious bodies, that those who have rejected the truth may think that God is with them. He hopes to deceive the honest and lead them to think that God is still working for the churches. But the light will shine, and all who are honest will leave the fallen churches, and take their stand with the remnant”  -Early Writings: page 261.

The remnant is small group not a large one like our current organisation. Many will be deceived and only few saved.
3."At Oswego, New York, September 7, 1850, the Lord showed me that a great work must be done for His people before they could stand in the battle in the day of the Lord. I was pointed to those who claim to be Adventists, but who reject the present truth, and saw that they were crumbling and that the hand of the Lord was in their midst to divide and scatter them now in the gathering time, so that the precious jewels among them, who have formerly been deceived, may have their eyes opened to see their true state. And now when the truth is presented to them by the Lord's messengers, they are prepared to listen, and see its beauty and harmony, and to leave their former associates and errors, embrace the precious truth and stand where they can define their position."  -Early Writings 69.2
The Conference is saying that Sister White is not a prophetess and that wee no longer hold firm to the three angel's message and the pillars of our faith.
4.I inquire of those in responsible positions in Battle Creek, (Present location of GC SDA) What are you doing? You have turned your back, and not your face, to the Lord. There needs to be a cleansing of the heart, the feelings, the sympathies, the words, in reference to the most momentous subjects--the Lord God, eternity, truth. What is the message to be given at this time? It is the third angel's message. But that light which is to fill the whole earth with its glory has been despised by some who claim to believe the present truth. Be careful how you treat it. Take off the shoes off your feet; for you are on holy ground. Beware how you indulge the attributes of Satan, and pour contempt upon the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. I know not but some have even now gone too far to return and to repent.  {TM 89.2}
we aregoing too far in compromising our faith with rome. We have to stop.
5.The enemy of souls, has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization.  Were this reformation to take place, what would result?—The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church would be discarded.  Our religion would be changed.  The fundamental principles that has sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error.  A new organization would be established.  Books of a new order would be written.  A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced.  The founders of this system would go into the cities and do a wonderful work.  The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it.  Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement.  The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which without God, is worthless.  Their foundation would be built upton the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure-Letter 242, October 1903 & Special Testimonies, Series B #7, p. 36-42
We cannot forsake the pillars of our faith this is what makes us the true Church of God.

"We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, and cage of every unclean and hateful bird." Letter 51, 9/6/1886

We cannot allow ourselves to be a part of Babylon.
7.“As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” Manuscript 57, October  12, 1895 & Manuscript Releases, vol 17, p 178
The conference has turned its back on God. Worshiping on Sunday, bowing to the pope etc.
Dnt pay attention to what he is saying check the behavior of the churches and see if its in accordance with our original pillars of faith that was given to us by GOD and not man.

Dear friends

Let us not confuse the church with the organisation... and then this problem would be solved... and let us not be loyal to the organisation more than to the church...and this idolatory would also be destroyed as God had told that He would destroy all idols in His time...

There is apostasy in the organisation cant be denied and only ones who refute that i have found are people who is feeding from off it as told" whose belly is their God" and soon they will be exposed...

 But it is not to deny that there are still lot of wheat among the tares who will be protected in His own way...

knowing the truth by experience about this...


I was shown in regard to the remnant people of God taking a name. Two classes werepresented before me. One class embraced the great bodies of professed Christians. They were trampling upon God's law and bowing to a papal institution. They were keeping the first day ofthe week as the Sabbath of the Lord. The other class, who were but few in number, were bowingto the great Lawgiver. They were keeping the fourth commandment. The peculiar and prominent features of their faith were the observance of the seventh day, and waiting for the appearing ofour Lord from heaven.  {1T 223.1}


The conflict is between the requirements of God and the requirements of the beast. The firstday, a papal institution which directly contradicts the fourth commandment, is yet to be made atest by the two-horned beast. And then the fearful warning from God declares the penalty ofbowing to the beast and his image. They shall drink the wine of the wrath of God, which ispoured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation.  {1T 223.2}     


No name which we can take will be appropriate but that which accords with our professionand expresses our faith and marks us a peculiar people. The name Seventh-day Adventist is astanding rebuke to the Protestant world. Here is the line of distinction between the worshipers of God and those who worship the beast and receive his mark. The great conflict is between the commandments of God and the requirements of the beast. It is because the saints are keeping allten of the commandments that the dragon makes war upon them. If they will lower the standard and yield the peculiarities of their faith, the dragon will be at peace; but they excite his ire because they have dared to raise the standard and unfurl their banner in opposition to theProtestant world, who are worshiping the institution of papacy.


The name Seventh-day Adventist carries the true features of our faith in front, and will convict the inquiring mind. Like an arrow from the Lord's quiver, it will wound the transgressors ofGod's law, and will lead to repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.  {1T224.1}   


 I was shown that almost every fanatic who has arisen, who wishes to hide his sentiments thathe may lead away others, claims to belong to the church of God. Such a name would at onceexcite suspicion; for it is employed to conceal the most absurd errors. This name is too indefinitefor the remnant people of God. It would lead to the supposition that we had a faith which wewished to cover up.

Yet Easter and Xmas are worthy celebrations, go figure?
It makes no sense, in the same  vein as the "Chewbacca the Wookie" South Park defense," look at the monkey, look at the monkey", IT MAKES NO SENSE!
More importantly Alex why do you follow the symbols of Baal worship just because Ellen White said so and why can't you see that this is a part of Babylon and therefore a part of receiving the mark of the beast?
It's not rocket science.

I agree that the SDA through the GC is becoming the sister of rome but that does not give you power to denounce Sister White as a false prophet because she did warn that the GC is no longer the voice of God.

So get your facts straight are you against the pillars of Adventist faith or are you against the deception and corruption of the leaders of  the SDA?

you need to find out where your problems lie.

@ Sumaj Why do you always bring up holidays in every conversation?? Even when it is not relevant to the thread???

Be careful of your accusations Sumaj. It is at times un-christ like. Remember the bible says not to judge lest you be judged.

I agree that Sumaj is behaving wow!! but the part about judging, the saints are supposed to judge.
The Bible say if we dnt know that we will juge angels also( 1 Cor 3:6), and that the Bible also said that the righteous man judgeth all things ( i Cor 2:15) what we are not supposed to do is condemn someone. So while we can judge their actions and warn them of the coming crisis that will happen if they dnt take heel we are not suppose to condemn them to eternal death etc.

Listen the facts are the facts, the righteous judgeth. When Jesus spoke about Judge not lest you be Judged, it was speaking to the fact that you should be merciful and not be quick to pass a verdict on a matter because there are time we also do the same (hence the case with Mary Magdalene). But that being said the righteous looks at all aspects of a case before passing Judgment thus making it just and fair. Even if you are guilty of the same sin.

So its a simple matter of this, if you find yourself in a case where you are not doing some form of Judgment your arent righteous.


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